Accomplished
actress, Madam Idowu Philips (Mama Rainbow), did not allow the death of her
husband to discourage her from continuing with a profession they were
practicing together.
Almost
30 years down the line after her husband’s untimely death, Iya Rainbow had
never slept with any other man and did not contemplate getting married to
another man.
She
has since become a reference point as a woman, who stands by her man even in
death and ensured that the dream they had together did not die. Iya Rainbow,
who is also busy with church activities as a founder of a Cherubim and Seraphim
Church, has been able to train her children and get a befitting accommodation,
which she said were all results of God’s grace and consistency in hardwork and
prayer.
In
this interview with Oladipupo Awojobi met Iya Rainbow in her house
tucked inside Ojodu Berger in Lagos Nigeria
We
want you to tell us why you decided to stick to acting despite the inherent
challenges?
If
you want to look at the challenges, you would not stay in the profession, it is
all about joy of the heart. In theatre, we suffer a lot. In those days, it used
to be stage plays, when we would rehearse for three months non-stop, you would
go to rehearsal with ‘gari’ and groundnut and your boss could collect it from
you. Then it was all about passion and we enjoyed it. Why I remained in the job
is because after the death of my late husband, Ayanfemi Oroniyi Phillips on January 22, 1984 , we did
not see anybody, no family, no friend. I thought of what to do and I went to
the late Chief Hubert Ogunde in Ososa, Ijebu, Ogun State University of
Lagos
Would
you say you are satisfied with what you have achieved so far or shall we say
are you fulfilled as an actress?
Of
course, one could be frustrated at times when you are not able to provide
school fees or provide food or other things for the family, I even thought of
going back to nursing. But there are times, when you are happy that you are
doing this job such as when we did; ‘Asiri Nla,’ produced by Jide Kosoko, ‘Madanwo’
by Segun Rasco, people hailed me everywhere I went. I am happy for the position
I am occupying now, I never thought I could be a landlady, if you are talking
of money for works, I don’t normally charge, I take whatever they give me and
pray for the producers. But, God gave me a house, the first one, I turned it to
a church and He gave me a duplex, where I am now living, He sent helpers to me
and now I am enjoying Him, but I still pray for more, that He should help my
children.
Can
you tell us some of the challenges and experiences of the job?
We
have had many experiences, I remember in those days, when my husband was still
alive, I would drop my salary for the production of posters for stage plays and
to rent halls. After the show, my husband would tell me not to bother about my
money so that we could pay the people who were working with us. I would insist
that he should refund my money, but he would cajole me and I had no choice but
to listen. He would tell me the money was not even enough. He would still come
to me to borrow money for some other plays and he would not pay, but I am
benefiting from that today. My husband once told me that he would travel far
and that he would stay long, he would tell me to take care of the house, but I
didn’t know he was talking about death. Whenever the battle is much, I would
say ‘Femi, why did you leave me now, this problem is too much?’ but, after some
days, it would be over. Then, there was no money in this job, all what we lived
for was popularity, people swam around us, but now there is money in the job
such that after working we could give our children N150,000 or N80,000. But,
for me, I don’t charge much and God has been blessing me. When my husband died,
I thought the world was going to end, and people were counseling me to take
heart, God really helped me because man cannot do it.
So,
why didn’t you marry another man to console you after the death of your husband
or at least look for a lover, but we read in your interviews that you didn’t
re-marry, why did you do that or did you have any covenant with your husband?
We
did not have any covenant that we would not marry after anyone’s death, but if
a man comes to see you, you would want to entertain him, and after that he
would say ‘I will see you tomorrow.’ Now, if one had cheapened herself, is that
what he would say? So, I didn’t allow any man, who has enough responsibilities
to bother me. One day, one of my bosses, who was interested in me, came to my
house and when he came, he saw many children eating, though not all of them
were my children, some were for my group members. So, when he came in, he asked
if they were all my children and I told him ‘yes,’ he was surprised to hear
that, that was the last time he came to my house. If I had allow him, that was
what he would say. I then went to marry a man that can never forsake you or
leave you, he would give you all you want, he would give you joy and satisfy
you, his name is Jesus, and he stands by me always.
But,
don’t you have any sexual feelings?
It
is when you are happy that you will think of such, when you look at your
children and think of what to do, no man would help you, he would just use you,
I don’t even remember that at ll.
Did
you experience sexual harassment in your days?
Yes,
and I suffered for it, but when I kept praying, God intervened and I call all
of them ‘my husband’ and some of them are wondering why I am doing that, people
like the late I Show Pepper, Ade Love and even the current ones, I call them ‘my
husband,’ such as Yinka Quadri, Taiwo Hassan and others, it is God. Sexual
harassment is everywhere, but some girls are even ready for it before you ask
them.
How
can we compare you time to the present age in the area of morals and sex?
Sex
is nothing to them again, it is now like eating or playing games, they don’t
take it the way we took it then. If you say you don’t want or you want to stop
it, it is not possible; they believe that you have to go close to someone
before you can climb up.
How
many plays have you acted in and which ones have you produced?
For
home videos, I have produced about 500, and stage plays, they are numerous,
even films, I worked with Ade Love, Ogunde, Moses Olaiya (Baba Sala) and
others, we thank God that we are dynamic today, but I can never expose my body
at this age, but we are ready to move with trends.
Is
any of your children acting and have you been able to train them properly?
All
my children know about the job, their father carried them along too. Like when
we traveled to Cotonou ,
Lome , Kumasi , Abidjan and other
places, we went together. I have a son, Femi Philips, he is in London, he
produced our films such as ‘Odunbaku,’ ‘Alamu Seniyan,’ ‘Elepo Robi,’ ‘Tanfe
Ani,’ ‘Mewa Nsele,’ ‘Kosarugbo Ni London,’ and others. Another one, Rotimi was
in ‘Elepo Robi,’ ‘Kosarugbo Ni London,’ then my daughter, Bisi was in
‘Erukeru,’ ‘Tanfe Ani,’ ‘Elepo Robi,’ where Segun Arinze also actted.
Are
you happy with the level Nollywood is at the moment?
I am
happy and I am not happy. Marketers used to be our major problem, now the
marketers too are suffering, we used to be the only one complaining then, if
you worked for them, they would not pay you early; they would be paying you in
bits. Now, pirates have spoilt the work for marketers too, so I am happy and
not happy. These days, the scripts rarely favour people like us except few as
they don’t write roles for elderly husband and wife anymore. It is so terrible.
How
rich is Mama Rainbow, do you have a jeep?
Well,
we thank God, we are not too rich. The young ones oppress us with jeeps, but I
still pray for them. In those days, there was no money there, in those days; we
used to feature in many films. Now, money is there, so if anyone is reigning,
don’t be jealous of him or her, it is their time. Some of our men, since there
are no roles for old men, they are sick, they cannot go out again or act, some
are old and they can still act if they are invited into movies. I am working on
an NGO, I want Asiwaju Bola Tinubu to be at the launching because he loves
theatre, I also want Governor Raji Fashola of Lagos to be there, we have
written to corporate organizations for support so that old artistes can come
for eye test, blood and urine test so that our people can see how they can
help. We also wrote some rich people to come to the aid of old artistes because
all of us would grow old if God permits.
In
those days, we see artistes as being fetish even these days, but it is as if
you are religious as a devoted Christian, are some of your plays not against
your faith?
Of
course, they contradict them but if you reject it, they would not give you work.
Actually we don’t get invited to plays much these days, but when they invite
us, we have to go so that people would know that we are still alive. Like the
one we just recorded, I acted as a prophetess, but my client acted the role of
someone, who comes to me to help him transfer other people’s destiny to him. I
will tell my church members that it is just a film and acting and that I cannot
do such to them.
I
think make-believe/stereotype is another problem?
Yes,
armed robbers attacked Kanran some time ago, and he was not having up to N5,000
on him, they beat him mercilessly. If area boys approach us for money and we
give them N1,000, they would insult us and compare us to others. They hear our
names, but they should not compare us to some young actresses and actors.
We
noticed that you were close to people like the late Gbenga Adeboye and Alhaji
Alade Aromire, how close were you to them before they died?
It
is as if they just died yesterday, Gbenga Adeboye loved me so much. My son,
Femi, who is in London ,
just told me one day that we should go and see Gbenga Adeboye because he learnt
that he talks about me so much, I was reluctant initially, but I had to go
after much persuasion. But, before we got there, he was drinking and he looked
at the tumbler and said that ‘one old woman is coming to see me, when she
comes, let her in because she is a good person, she is wearing white garment
and holding a Bible.’ Meanwhile, I didn’t go there with white garment, we got
there and he greeted us cheerfully, he told us to sit down and entertained us
with food. Later, a prophet came, he was known as Prophet Atupa, and he prayed
and raised four fingers. It was after Gbenga’s death that we knew that the four
fingers indicated that I was plain, that if I was a witch, he would have raised
three fingers. The first car I bought, apart from the one my husband bought for
me, was through Gbenga Adeboye. One day, I fell from a commercial bus in front
of his office in Ojodu Berger and his boys wanted to beat the driver, I told
them to leave him alone, that they should help me pray that God would come to
my aid so that I could have my own car. When they got home, they told him and
he sent for me the next day. He asked if it was true and I said well, I didn’t
know it would happen. He then asked if I had a film that we could launch, I
said I had a film, ‘Alamu Seniyan.’ He organized it and paid people, who
organized the hall at Mainland Hotel after the whole thing, I said they should
give him his shares; he said no, that I should take everything and buy a new
car. One of my sons in Ilorin ,
Bisi, helped my buy Mazda 626 from the money, red in colour. If he was at LTV
8, he would call his boy, Festus to give me the whole money, which could be
N10,000 then.
Also,
Alade Aromire, people said I should sign an agreement with Alade to work with
him then, they didn’t know that he met me in poverty, yes I mean it. I was in
the premises of LTV 8 then, a week to a New Year celebration, there was nothing
for me and my children to spend, I leaned on a car and I didn’t know I was
crying. When he came, he said ‘Maami, can’t you see you are crying.’ I said ‘I
am not crying,’ he said no, ‘you are crying.’ He took me to the back of LTV 8
and asked for what happened, I told him, ‘it is a week to New Year day, we
don’t have money for chicken, and I used to kill a ram.’ He asked if that was
all and asked if I could advertise honey, I said ‘yes,’ he took me to his
office; Yotomi Studio close to ;LTV 8 and told them to give me a bottle of
honey to advertise. I did just that and recorded the advert, after that, I
asked after him, they said he had gone, but that he dropped N25,000 for me, I
was so surprised, it was like N25Million to me then. We bought food
ingredients, ram, soft drinks and all that and celebrated the New Year in a big
way and it was so wonderful, so I cannot forget him. He later called me that he
wanted to be selling lands and houses and asked if I could help advertise them
I said I was ready. How can I call a lawyer for such a person, he promised to
give me N150,000, he gave me N70,000 cash and kept N80,000 in the bank for me.
People were telling me that I should have invited a lawyer and charged
N3million, I couldn’t do that. After his death, I am left with Miracle, Aderemi,
his friend, we are still together with his children and Gbemi Oluyori, the
accountant, Dayo, Hadji, we are still together. As we are advertising the land,
they are buying it and we did not short change anybody, no fraud, some would
say they bought it because of Mama Rainbow; where are those who collected N3M
or N10M for such a job today. So, I cannot forget those two men as you have
said, they are my helpers, but when death comes, no one can stop it.
We
notice the way you act in your works, you don’t tolerate nonsense, is that your
true picture?
That
is my character, my daughters-in-law know me, they can take anything from my
house, but you must take care of your children and husband, a woman must be
careful and take care of her home. Whatever condition her husband is, she must
stay with him, no condition is permanent. If you are praying and fasting, God
will help your husband. I try to influence my daughters-in-law to be good wives
and they always come back to thank me. Even, other women that are close to my
children, I tell them to appreciate their husbands, and respect them, so my
character reflects in my works.
We
know you are from Odogbolu, did you stay at home and how did you meet your
husband?
I
didn’t stay in Ijebu, but I go there regularly, my father is from Oke Olu,
while my mother was from Eyin Edi, she was from Adefowope family, while my
father was Ifemade. My father was Baba Aladura in Lagos and we were living in Lagos . There was a space
beside our house, where carpenters had a shop, which my husband’s group,
Osumare used to come for rehearsals and I was their patroness, from there, I
became his wife. My mother used to tell me that they told her visions that I
was going to be popular and go to countries, where my parents had never been
and promote their names, but they never knew it was going to be through
theatre. When I was a nurse, patients used to come to my house for treatments,
I registered old men then, who were being given food and provisions by the
government, and they would come to my house to greet me. If they come, they
would bring gifts, but I would not collect the gifts, if I was not around, they
would drop the gifts with my mother, but I would tell her not to collect any
gift from them again that I only helped them, she would say she rejected it but
that they insisted she must collect it. I am always ready to help people, even
before I joined theatre. I would resume work at 7am and attend to people before others would come, when I
was on maternity leave, they had an end of year party and one Dr. Soboyejo was
proud to commend me that I was hard working because I would go to work till 12 noon , while on maternity leave
then. Some patients would insist that I should treat them. There was a time I
helped a lady, I didn’t know she was our relative; I accommodated her in my
father’s church and got her married. It was on the day of naming that her
people saw my mother and they were surprised that I helped her without knowing
her.
Can
you tell us some of your childhood pranks?
I
was very troublesome I used to fight a lot, while fighting for other, they
would tear my uniform. If I get home and I tell my mother that my clothes got
torn while defending others, she would ask me why I did that. I used to go to
people’s house that we should continue our fight from where we stopped the
previous day. My mother would tell me one doesn’t fight till the following day,
no man dared come near me, but now I don’t even argue with people. One of my
children resembles me with that and when I tried to scold her, my mother would
express surprise, telling me the child resembles me. But I thank God for my
life now, I beg my children not to spoil my name, now people call me from
London that Femi and Rotimi are so nice. I warn my driver not to go on one way
and that I cannot go against the law.
Is
this the only thing you do?
I
had been a nurse before now. We cannot go into business since we don’t have
capital for business.
Do
you have cause to reject work?
Atimes,
we don’t know the title like ‘Aje Meta,’ and ‘Apadi,’ produced by Funke
Akindele, I didn’t know what they involved until they were released. Funke
would just cajole me to do it and tell me the title later. But she has been so
nice to me; Funke is so nice, even when it was tough, she would ask me to come
even for a scene. I pray she would have settled home very soon and start having
children. I pray for her every time.
What
advice do you have for upcoming artistes and what can the government do to help
the industry?
The
first thing is to help us stop piracy because you spend like N1.2M on a job and
the marketer buys it for N6000,000. If they help us on piracy, it would be
better, if you borrow money to record a film, the creditor would be on your
neck. No one is even ready to give out money for films these days, may be your
family members can help you and he too will want his money back. Our young
artistes should desist from scattering homes, especially those of the people
that give us houses as locations. Even if you befriend them, don’t spoil their
homes or make them regret given us houses, don’t let them abandon their wives
because of you.
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