A development economist, Prof Akpakpan Edet, shares his thoughts with DANIEL AYANTOYE on the need for the government to lift the embargo on employment amid the high rate of unemployment.
Since he assumed office, President Bola Tinubu has rolled out some economic policies. How will you describe the prospect of the policies with the current economic realities?
Starting with the removal of subsidy, it was hastily done.
It was necessary to remove it but the government should have allowed for more
planning. There should have been a discussion, especially with the labour
unions and experts. On the exchange rate, it didn’t begin now. In 2016, about
six Professors of Economics, including myself, were invited and we had a
meeting with the then Vice President, Yemi Osibanjo, and some ministers,
including the CBN governor at that time, Godwin Emefiele. The matter was raised
and I told the VP that the way the world economy had been structured would not
help us to succeed with the kind of exchange rate policy we were pursuing,
which was allowing it to float. The dollar was between N197 and N198 and there
was pressure on the government to devalue.
I warned the government not to devalue (the naira) and that
they should determine what this nation would fund with the hard-earned foreign
exchange. Incidentally, there were about 41 items that were listed that the
government was not going to release foreign exchange for. I told them it was
the sensible thing to do for the interest of the nation. However, I told them
that they should not make it permanent but go and take a hard look at the 41
items and find out from those interested in importing them precisely how it was
affecting them and then work out how to help them. I mentioned that the
manufacturers, if there were items for further processing that would help
production in this country, the government should allow those ones to come in at
a lower rate but it should not be free for everybody because It is not in the
best interest of our economy that cannot produce a variety of goods and
services, cannot operate a floating exchange rate system successfully, it will
always work against it.
I told the VP that things would get worse because those
putting the government under pressure to devalue don’t know what they are
saying. What do we do if we don’t devalue? And I said, don’t devalue, we have
to tighten our belt as a nation, and we cannot be importing things the way we
used to import. I told him to communicate with the people on why certain things
cannot be imported and that if anyone had the foreign exchange to import, he
should allow him but not to look for foreign exchange from the government. I
also expressed the need for the country to step up domestic production of what
the people want most.
In the area of production, how can the government boost the
economy with the private sector?
The government can adopt the Public Private Partnership.
Government provision is different from production. You get private firms,
support them, work out an arrangement with them, monitor and help them to
deliver. Private sector organisations are more efficient because the people
know the bottom line. Managing an economy is a tough business, especially in
today’s world because every other country wants you to remain a market for its
product. It is for you to fight against it and tell them that you will buy their
product but they must also buy yours and that is the problem of the naira. The
only sure way of stabilising the exchange rate of a country like Nigeria is for
the country to produce and sell to the rest of the world things that will make
other people demand your currency. This is why the currencies of African
countries are perpetually falling.
Are you in support of calls that Africa should have its
currency to reduce the overreliance on foreign currencies?
It is good and we should work towards that but we don’t have
to rush into it. There is a need to check. If we have that, it will make Africa
one big market. But there is a need for a plan, and while we are planning, we
should take note that because we are going to reduce our dependence on those hard
currencies, those countries will be working to frustrate our efforts because
such is not in their interest. So, we need to know the problems we are likely
to run into and then map out the strategies for dealing with them. We are being
exploited because of this close relationship with those developed countries.
For example, the things we buy from them; they fix their prices in their
currencies, and the things we sell to them, they fix their price in their
currencies.
So, who is going to demand our currency? Nobody! Without a
demand for our currency, it can never gain in strength. So, we must look at
production and do whatever it takes to stimulate domestic production. The point
of our economic problems such as unemployment and many others is rooted in our inability
to produce a variety of goods and services. We must also learn how to sell to
other countries and penetrate foreign markets. Our people at the embassies
abroad should be doing for us. They should look at the local market in the
country they are in and tell us the conditions so that our people will be ready
with their standard and it will be easier to penetrate the market of such
countries.
In a bid to ease the impact of fuel subsidy removal on
Nigerians, the President established the Presidential Compressed Natural Gas
Initiative to substitute petrol for CNG. What is your view on this development?
That is interesting, but is it something that can be done in
a hurry? It is not. I heard that a young man converted a vehicle into an
electric car in Maiduguri. What the government should do is to get him and help
him to expand things. It is good to try many things but we must plan well. Gas
is not free and it is not infinite. Not that you do this now and tomorrow, you
run into another issue. We need to do our calculations. We need to also
consider the maintenance costs of having such vehicles. Do we have the capacity
to maintain vehicles that have been so converted?
Most of our problems have to do with the attitude of people
in power. We behave as if we don’t know that every nation in this world
competes.
For the first time, we have the Marine and Blue Economy
Ministry. What is your take on the creation of this ministry?
It’s all about marine and sea, but have we mastered what
happens on land? If you do a cost-benefit analysis of that ministry, it will
not be justified. We can do all that, using the existing ministry. Unless you
are telling me that certain aspects of this country are not covered under any
ministry. You can create a division in a ministry. We don’t need a separate
ministry for that for now. When some countries are merging theirs, you are
expanding to 48 ministries. What are you doing with them? At the end of the
day, if you are to compare what we are to get with what it would cost us to create
the ministry, it will be negative.
We can bring down the number of ministries in the country to
30 and run a more impactful government. The thing is that our people in
government don’t listen. When I was in government in the Ministry of Finance,
they had a desk officer who read all the papers, then summarised everything,
and by 12, they would make available to the minister the things that were said
about the ministry and in less than two weeks, you begin to get reactions. A
government department should go through the newspapers and pick some key
things, but if you go to a ministry and ask them, they will say they have not
heard. Lack of commitment, low quality of manpower, and then you begin to ask
how they were selected.
It has been said that the blue economy has the potential to
create millions of jobs. How can this be better handled to benefit the common
man?
Where will all the jobs come from? A government that doesn’t
pay attention to planning is not serious. And this is what happens when you
hire based on relationship and not based on competence. Putting the wrong
people in power is one of the issues that have brought us here.
The recent unemployment figure from the Nigeria Bureau of
Statistics sparked controversy as the NBS stated that the unemployment rate has
significantly decreased from the previous 33.3% (Q4, 2020) to a new low of
4.1%, What is your take on the matter?
It is ridiculous. It is an insult. Before today, I respected
the NBS because they held their ground. What they have done now is adopt the
provision of the International Labour Organisation which states that you are in
employment if you can work for one hour out of 40 hours. How can anybody accept
that? I have tried to have a dialogue with the ILO team, but I have not
succeeded, and I decided not to bother myself again. Up till now, the NBS has
refused to use the ILO but used theirs, which was more sensible. But how did
NBS suddenly decide to adopt ILO? If they were aware that the ILO standard had
been in existence for the past eight years, why now? Secondly, a 4.1
unemployment rate means full employment. With the current economic realities,
will anyone say Nigeria has full employment?
Some say the figure is incorrect but the
Statistician-General of the Federation and Chief Executive Officer of the
National Bureau of Statistics, Mr Semiu Adeniran, said the bureau followed new
guidelines established by the ILO. Do you think this in any way reflected the
true position of things in the country?
No. The NBS should throw it away and use the standard it has
been using. Those international
organisations that put forward standards have their reasons and their motivations.
They only suggest that you are not duty-bound as a country to follow them. Just
like the IMF, they are there to suggest, not drive things down the throats of
nations. They suggested, consider your local condition and decide what to do.
What happens in government now is that our people in power have the spine to
stand up to the IMF or any of those international organisations. If I had to
meet ILO on behalf of NBS, I would tell them to go and sit down and that this
doesn’t make sense in my own country. What income will you earn that will
sustain you for the rest 39 hours if you work just for one hour? It is
nonsense; you don’t need economic knowledge to analyse it.
Despite the rate of unemployment and underemployment in the
country, an embargo was placed on employment by the Muhammadu Buhari
administration. Some have said this contributed to the increasing unemployment
rate. What can you say about this?
The government may have realised that their agencies were
employing people unnecessarily and they were frivolities. Any department that
had a need was expected to make requests and justify them. When we blame a
government for unemployment, we are not suggesting that the government should
be creating jobs in government institutions. The government must manage the
economy well so that the economy is vibrant and allows people to go into
investment and create enterprises that will create jobs.
Recently, the House of Representatives called on President
Tinubu to lift the embargo on employment. What is your take on this?
Our people don’t want to ask questions when they don’t know
something, and that is the problem. You don’t place an embargo because the jobs
that the government can create are based on needs. If there is a need, allow
it, not to place an embargo. An embargo means you cannot employ when there is a
need and that’s wrong. What the government should do is direct its MDAs and
parastatals that there should be no frivolous employment and they should
justify every employment. But the problem is that once a minister comes on
board, they begin to share job slots. And you begin to see people calling
themselves civil servants everywhere and some of them don’t even have desks.
Will you say this is why we have issues of job racketeering
in government agencies?
Embargo creates an opportunity for racketeering because
people will begin to explore the ignorance of those desperate to get jobs. But
if the economy was functioning, the pressure on people to fall victim to such
things would reduce. So placing an embargo
is wrong; the President must ensure it is lifted, and people should be allowed
to come in and go out. It will allow for fresh blood and there may be genuine
need.
The curricula for primary, secondary and tertiary schools
appear not to be sustainable due to the need for the Nigerian youth to embrace
self-employment. How can these curricula be changed to meet the current
economic realities in the country?
The curricula should not be permanent. The relevant
department of the government should constantly look into the curricula, and
compare them with the system. The curricula should be in line with what is
needed in the system.
Simply put, an average Nigerian graduate in the country is
always in pursuit of scarce white-collar jobs without thinking of learning a
trade. How can this overreliance on white-collar jobs be reduced?
Overreliance on white-collar jobs can be reduced. First of
all, the jobs are not there. People don’t have the skills to do things. There
is a need to look at what the skills that the school system is producing are.
Is the system providing the kind of skills we need? If not, provide for the
production of the skills you need for varieties of industries. When you are
setting up a business, you need the academic knowledge that will provide you
with ideas, and for you to succeed in application, you need the practical
knowledge of your ideas. So, we need to prioritise technical knowledge. That is
what those who develop the curricula should be looking at. - Source